Curse

maraxusofk · Nov 21, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26

how bout this. remove the money from the books and just up the reputation rewards. easy as pie.

Šiljo · Nov 21, 2008, 08:34 PM // 20:34

No money no play,ftw

No server space,lol,after 3 years they NOW realized that storage failed...meh...

ppls need moar moneys...
eod

Shadowmoon · Nov 21, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

Maybe having the book storage become a micro transaction.
Give the freaken online store a use. That way they can pay for extra storage space.

Stuart444 · Nov 21, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

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Originally Posted by maraxusofk

how bout this. remove the money from the books and just up the reputation rewards. easy as pie.

iirc, the EoTN books give money as a reward so removing the money reward from these books would make people whine because you get money rewards from the EoTN books

if they removed the reward from both books, people would whine because people who may not have done an EoTN book or have just completed one and was planning on turning it in for the money reward mainly would whine

and if they leave it as it is, people whine. can't please everyone so I say just leave it, let people whine and then move on. next month, there will be a new thing to QQ about most likely and this will be forgotten about <_<

BenjZee · Nov 21, 2008, 08:45 PM // 20:45

how exactly does the storage fail? anyway they've alwasy said storage has been a problem but do you really need half of that stuff in your storage?

Rocky Raccoon · Nov 21, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54

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Originally Posted by SmithyBen

how exactly does the storage fail? anyway they've alwasy said storage has been a problem but do you really need half of that stuff in your storage?

That's because many of us have;

Compulsive Hoarding Syndrome:
The acquisition of, and failure to discard, possessions that appear to be useless or of limited value.

Fates · Nov 21, 2008, 08:57 PM // 20:57

I have solved the $$ problem with making the books retroactive and the effect on the economy (lol)!!

Make the cost of buying those pages the same as the reward for turning in the book. I highly doubt the players that want them retroactive give a rats *** about the $60k.

I know I sure dont, but would love all the faction I'd gain across the 8 characters I've taken through Factions.

Ctb · Nov 21, 2008, 08:57 PM // 20:57

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No server space,lol,after 3 years they NOW realized that storage failed...meh...

This.

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. The books themselves already exist, all they need to do is cross-reference a player's storage id with the book id. That's 2 int fields or 8 bytes per stored book. Considering how cheap storage is now, that's just insane.

I've heard some pretty sorry things from companies, but I've never heard a viable company say they couldn't afford a couple hundred dollars worth of hard drives.

I guess it was a huge mistake to believe that free to play and ad-free MMOs were possible. They can't even afford a couple hard drives anymore.

Nude Nira · Nov 21, 2008, 09:03 PM // 21:03

Ok...so you can give us a worthless storybook storage, yet you can't give us a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing armor/bigger storage that people have been asking for along time now...thanks a lot

Shadowspawn X · Nov 21, 2008, 09:04 PM // 21:04

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

To be honest, I think the majority of people who want the books retroactive don't really care about the gold. We want the faction, we want the reputation points. Give us that and the experience, leave out the gold. The Guild Wars "economy" won't suffer, and people will be able to get the other rewards. You wanted to reduce grind, and this is going to give a lot of people a lot less grind. I see no reason not to give us the faction/rep points.

Agreed. Nothing more to add.

slowerpoke · Nov 21, 2008, 09:07 PM // 21:07

we all know "looking into it" is jargon for we arent gonna do anything, lets hope they forget about it after a while

Fates · Nov 21, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10

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Originally Posted by Nude Nira

Ok...so you can give us a worthless storybook storage, yet you can't give us a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing armor/bigger storage that people have been asking for along time now...thanks a lot

Apparently reading and comprehension are two totally different things.

Abedeus · Nov 21, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16

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Originally Posted by slowerpoke

we all know "looking into it" is jargon for we arent gonna do anything, lets hope they forget about it after a while

Like I already said - more reasons to think A.Net will be the same in GW 2.

Martin Firestorm · Nov 21, 2008, 09:20 PM // 21:20

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Originally Posted by Nude Nira

Ok...so you can give us a worthless storybook storage, yet you can't give us a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing armor/bigger storage that people have been asking for along time now...thanks a lot

Freaking fool--you're not getting either.

Kattar · Nov 21, 2008, 09:26 PM // 21:26

What Nira means is, people have been screaming for more storage for a long time - mainly storage for armor - but never got it. But, when people QQ about carrying around books, ANet hops right on that one.

Shayne Hawke · Nov 21, 2008, 09:28 PM // 21:28

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Storybook Storage

The addition of seven new Storybooks is putting a lot of pressure on player inventories.

Lol, no. Players are making you think that they're pressured because they don't realize that books are a bonus, not a requirement.

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Storybook Retroactivity

Given the reason that they didn't do this, I'm glad it wasn't done.

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Luxon and Kurzick Faction Points

The fact that ANet admits that they made a bad decision makes everything about this okay to me, even though this wasn't really much of an issue in the first place.

Phaern Majes · Nov 21, 2008, 09:31 PM // 21:31

Solution to book storage...make it a damn quest. One that just has "Complete mission XX in NM/HM" as an objective. Once you complete all the objectives, quest done, turn it in, make it repeatable... wasn't that easy?

Shayne Hawke · Nov 21, 2008, 09:35 PM // 21:35

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Originally Posted by Phaern Majes

Solution to book storage...make it a damn quest. One that just has "Complete mission XX in NM/HM" as an objective. Once you complete all the objectives, quest done, turn it in, make it repeatable... wasn't that easy?

That would promote doing one of a few select missions over and over again, which goes totally against the way books are designed now.

Fril Estelin · Nov 21, 2008, 09:40 PM // 21:40

Disclaimer: yes I'm making my reply personal, but hopefully Ctb will understand it's still very polite and respectful, given the MPs we've exchanged. If not, I apologise and will myself delete this message.

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Originally Posted by Ctb

I've heard some pretty sorry things from companies, but I've never heard a viable company say they couldn't afford a couple hundred dollars worth of hard drives.

I guess it was a huge mistake to believe that free to play and ad-free MMOs were possible. They can't even afford a couple hard drives anymore.

Sorry to be blunt Ctb, but you sound so bitter that you don't realise you're speaking non-sense. (and I may even venture to say that it's because you're enjoying so much the p2p LotRO, but I find it sad that you're still here only making negative comments, which is by the way your right until you start saying non-sense, like on the "this update is just a DB update") I won't even start to discuss the notion of economic model behind a distributed/online game and how you plan resources for making sure you can still make GW1 live with a few interesting updates for 12 to 18 months...

It's quite incredible that after such a nice update (hint: "nice" doesn't mean perfect or fair, you can even find it "bad" but you'd be fool to deny the fact that a vast majority liked it) and the nice gesture of reacting to player's discussions (yes, of course you can pick on me here and say that they only listened to what was convenient for them), some players will still try to twist things in a negative manner.

I can't wait for GW2 so that all this "noise" stops and people move on to where it's best for them!

ALF71BE · Nov 21, 2008, 09:41 PM // 21:41

I think Phaern means a global quest, not like Mallyx the Unyielding quest that requires taking smaller quests.